BASEBALL CARD TALK

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On this page, you’ll find a collection of thoughts about my baseball card collection, and old baseball cards in general.



BASEBALL CARD WANT LIST

UPDATED JUNE 19, 2022

Now an unranked list with major and minor league cards.


***Cody’s baseball cards news, stories and updates***

Peoria Card Buys: March 26, 2022 – My trip to Peoria, as initially planned, would have been an absolute bust if it weren’t for a decision to also visit a pair of card shops in the city. While I came away from a card show at the mall empty-handed, I came away from the two shops with 14% of my Want List finds found. Blog entry also includes Peoria road trip observations, and an opinion of “gold stamp” vintage cards from Topps.

Shop Visit: Freeport’s Jennings Cards and Coins – If you’re looking for that missing card for a vintage set, it’s very likely within the realm of this longtime business in downtown Freeport. It’s been open since the 1960s, in the card market since the 1980s, and is one of the rare survivors of the sports card business. Found one card on my Want List that pays informal homage to what’s going on in baseball today.

Top 25 Find: 1987 Topps Traded Ron Cey – The card that costs only $0.10 but is high up on my Want List now is in the personal collection. You might eye that set wanting the Greg Maddux rookie, but I’m in search of another former Cub. Speaking of former Cubs, one is from Ottawa, threw a lot of strikeouts in high school, and the feat is mentioned in this player’s card in this set.

Madison Card Show Haul, Jan. 29, 2022: The vintage PC continues to add up after some good finds at my friend Beau’s monthly show in Wisconsin. Several PC “firsts,” a chicken, a couple of multi-sport athletes, and memories of 1960s cereal, candy and marbles. This was a very well-attended show! Also popped off my favorite Red Sox trivia question.

Cody’s Top 12 Vintage-ish “Rookie Stars” Cards Topps Got Right: You’re the card editor of sorts at Topps in the 1960s or 1970s. Who gets their own rookie card? Who gets to be lumped in a multi-player card? How did those multi-player card choices work out? I determine the 12 best “rookie star” player combos of the time.

The Lazarus Ticket: Dig through your old cards. Do you come across any that make you stop sifting through for a moment and think about that player in that season? If so, you may have come across a card worth keeping or trading as a conversation piece, and maybe up its value a little?

Peru card show haul, Dec. 18
Returned to Peru after more than a year to come away with a mix of current and vintage cards, from as late as a 2013 Bartolo Colon to a 1952 Del Crandall. Also:
• Did I find Harmon Killebrew in a Royals uniform?
• Dick Allen’s weird 1970-72 Topps run
• Rookie card of a Caribbean, Cuban and Latino Hall of Famer
• Adrian Gonzalez?

Rockford card show haul, Dec. 11
My first visit to the Northern Illinois Sports Card Show saw lots of Want List cards found. Got a couple of neat 1971 Topps cameo cards. Plus, learn more about Australian baseball legend Graeme Lloyd. Also:
• 200 pitching wins, and his 1970 rookie card is just $1?
• Completion of the Gary Kolb Topps card arc, but no “white whale”
• Two new Hall of Famers

Orland Park card show haul, Nov. 27
In my 3rd trip to Orland Park, I came away with a smaller stack than in my 2nd trip, but this stack had more quality to it. I now have original cards of every hall of fame player and manager with service time in the 1970s and later. Plus, I can add “head coach” to my oddball position collection to go along with “pinch runner.”

Orland Park card show haul, Oct. 17
The monthly shows at the Orland Park Civic Center in the southwest suburbs of Chicago has become a favorite of mine due to the large number of vintage cards I’ve come across. Many cards I’ve found filled my Want List, or were cards that I thought were good enough to grace my collection, such as minor star rookie cards and “conversation piece” cards such as Frank Thomas in a Cubs uniform (actually, that’s the “old” Frank Thomas of the 50s and 60s, an original Met who was a pretty good hitter in his era).


Put these cards aside: Notes for your next junk wax memory lane trip

Written: Aug. 25, 2020

Quantity trumped quality when I was a child, but like any child, I wouldn’t have known right from wrong when it came to collecting baseball cards.

The fact that this 8-year old had a whopping “one thousand!” baseball cards seemed very awesome at the time. Yes, 804 cards from the 1992 Donruss factory set played a big part.

Sports stores in downtown Rock Falls (where I grew up during grade school) and Sterling had boxes of cards they sold for either a dime or a quarter. Memorizing the prices of the monthly Beckett magazines, I sought to raid every single dime box I could find. That’s when the “joy” of investment came to me: Here’s this card I bought for $0.10 that I could sell for $1 to someone because that card really is $1 in mint condition! Oh, the dollar signs that spun around in my 12-year-old head had me thinking riches come adulthood!

Of course, that didn’t happen.

I stopped religiously collecting baseball cards when I got to high school, and sports journalism became my future. However, I was left with this massive pile of baseball cards that weren’t going anywhere. When I moved out of the parents’ house, those cards came with me; it took a separate trip down the road to move them. When should be my guest bedroom currently is my baseball card room.

I don’t have those fancy autograph, relic pieces, 1:1’s, etc. Just a lot of junk wax base cards that no longer appeal to the casual collector. Or do they?

Time has passed quick on the junk wax era, which I narrow down to between 1987-1992, when common cards are as low as $0.05. No player from that era plays anymore. Only some names are recognizable to the youngest baseball fans; those of your star players.

Question for you high schoolers: Have you ever heard of Lance Parrish, Frank Tanana, Dwight Evans or Mario Soto? Chances are, you haven’t. Parrish and Evans hit more than 300 home runs in their careers, Tanana won more than 200 games and more than 2,700 strikeouts, and Soto was a good pitcher whose career was shorter than most stars. However, they were stars of their time, and they are not common cards of the junk wax era.

Ask them if they’ve heard of Dale Murphy. There may be a few that indeed have heard of him.

I’ve got plenty of Dale Murphy. But how to market those cards to someone?

I also have plenty of Harold Baines. So if you’re looking for cards of a Hall of Fame player, I’ve got some.

This line of thinking brought me back to my baseball card room tonight to figure out how to market these largely-unmarketable baseball cards and give them new life.

Simmons1. Hall of Fame

Induction into Cooperstown doesn’t guarantee a card’s increase in value on that merit alone; nor does the tragic death of baseball player. Growing up, you’ve probably heard about how such cards go up. You probably witnessed the huge spike in Mickey Mantle prices when he succumbed to liver cancer in 1995. Deaths of Darryl Kile, Roy Halladay and Alan Wiggins didn’t do anything to their card values.

The generation gap plays a big role here. Prior to Baines’ induction to Cooperstown, a young collector wasn’t likely to “want” a Harold Baines baseball card from his paling days; they like were dismissive in the form of “Who’s he?” However, since Baines now is in the Hall, he then becomes a player that aspiring collectors have the potential to shoot for to have at least a card of him in their collection. Baines gets in, and he then is swung more in-demand than, say, Dwight Evans.

You can say all you want about Baines’ induction; it does come with a lot of criticism. One interesting thing about Baines that didn’t happen to other recent inductees is that his 1981 rookie cards did NOT go up in value based on his induction.

Ted Simmons is another story. The 2020 inductee saw his rookie card blast through the ceiling when it came to induction. Just 6 short years ago, his 1971 Topps rookie card was a mere $8. It’s $120 now. Much of that has to do with the prestige of the 1971 set, black borders and all. However, Goose Gossage had a similar uptick, but not as expensive, with his 1973 Topps rookie card after his induction into Cooperstown: $6 just 6 years ago, now $40.

Simmons now joins Baines on a “baseball hall of famers want list,” something that Dale Murphy is not a part of. Yet.

Get out those Ted Simmons Braves cards!

2. Brief stint

Let’s say Dale Murphy gets his due and gets in Cooperstown. Younger collectors now have a new name to add to their collection.Murphy

What used to be the best way to find Dale Murphy cards was to raid dime boxes. As you are raiding the dime box looking to grab all of the Murphy cards you can get your hands on, how many of those cards are Braves cards? How many are Phillies cards? How many are Rockies cards? Murphy only played for those teams during his career, and you’re less likely to find a Rockies card of him in a dime box than a Braves card. Murphy only played an abbreviated season for the expansion Rockies in 1993, and therefore there aren’t as many Rockies cards of Murphy floating around dime boxes.

Save those Dale Murphy Rockies cards. Potential career arc premium. Those 1993s may not rise in value from his semistar slot, but they have potential to be in demand.

Speaking of 1993 expansion draft players: The same scenario can be made for Trevor Hoffman. You’re likely to find more Padres cards in a dime box than Marlins cards. Potential career arc premium.

If Topps hadn’t airbrushed Reggie Jackson’s 1977 card, and left him as a Baltimore Oriole, imagine the value of that card. If you’re a Reggie collector, you’re less likely to find an Oriole card in the mainstream than you are of him on the Athletics (in both stints), Angels or Yankees.

When you think of Willie McCovey, you think Giants. Billy Williams, Cubs. Joe Morgan, Reds or Astros. Manny Sanguillen, Pirates. But what do these four star players of the 1970s have in common? They all are former Oakland Athletics players. Plenty of cards of their most known teams out there; not so much from their A’s days.

If you’re looking for a Mike Piazza card of his Marlins days – all 7 of them! – they do exist. I recommend having the Pacific Omega card from 1998, which has Piazza playing for the Dodgers, Marlins and Mets on the same card front. Variations of that card exist.

Piazza

To an even smaller extent, this scenario could also apply to managers and coaches. “I own a Bob Lemon baseball card” could very well apply to the 1971 card I have of him as a Royals manager.

Find 1987 Topps “Astros Leaders” in your collection. On the front is some fat old guy walking away from the mound toward the photographer’s camera. That’s not just any old coach: That’s Yogi Berra. This is the only MLB-issued card of him in an Astros uniform. You can own a baseball card of Yogi Berra, in an ugly Astros uniform, for just $0.10!

3. Managers and coaches of today

As mentioned, players from the junk wax era now are all retired. However, several of them continue to stay in the game as coaches and/or managers.

Dave Martinez, for example, is a junk wax rookie. He managed the Nationals to the 2019 World Series championship. It didn’t do anything to his rookie card value, but perhaps it could if he can lead teams to additional titles.

That worked for Bruce Bochy’s 1979 Topps rookie card. That card, back in 2013 – a year before he won his third title with the Giants, was just $0.75. However, with possible Hall of Fame talk coming along after title No. 3, that card has since jumped to $5.Bochy

Martinez’s rookie cards, if the same predicament applies, won’t be that much since there are more than one company producing cards from his time.

I’ll probably cobble up some more thoughts the more I look at my cards.


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More thoughts on Junk Wax Salvaging

In addition to a post that I wrote about a year ago about salvaging certain junk wax cards (linked HERE), I’m trying to think of more ways to do this.

Earlier, I had discussed cameo cards, and cards that may result in funny captions.

Cameo cards are those with star players in the background. The stars can be either fully seen or somewhat obvious.

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Examples of cameo cards

The 1989 Topps ‘Padres Leaders” card is meant to be one that tells about the Padres’ statistical leaders for the 1988 season. However, you’ll notice that Hall of Fame catcher Gary Carter is on the other end of the card trying to tag out the Padres’ Roberto Alomar – also a Hall of Famer.

Both are Hall of Fame players, so the true “cameo” definition sort of cancels out. However, if that Padres runner were a common (say, Stan Jefferson), then that simple $0.05 card would be worth keeping.

The Alomar-Carter card is $0.25, according to Beckett. The card may be interesting to collectors of Carter.

I have Roberto Alomar’s 1994 Topps base card which has a cameo of his brother, Sandy, sliding into second base. It is one of only a few “in-action” cards featuring the two brothers. Right now, it doesn’t increase the value of the cards, but it may have potential down the road.

Another interesting cameo is Ryne Sandberg on the 1983 Topps Reggie Smith card. Sandberg’s rookie card is in that set. Smith was a good player throughout his career, with more than 300 homers, and this was his last original card. Sandberg is seen returning to first base on a pickoff attempt. Normally, the value of the card without Sandberg is $0.30, but with the interesting Sandberg cameo the value spikes up to “unlisted star status” at $1.25, according to Beckett.

Having a superstar cameo rarely increases its current value, but can be a good sell to individual player collectors.

The other card I have pictured MAY be a cameo, but I’m not certain. It looked, at least to me, that Matt Williams was sliding into second base under Tom Foley. I’m not sure if that REALLY is Matt Williams, so I file it under the “I don’t know bin.”

Card captions

HOWEVER, does it appear that “Williams” is trying to touch Foley in a certain area?

That’s the kind of card that I file in my “card captions” box.

Certainly, the photographer did not intend to have that picture play out the way it did, but it may appear that there may be some sort of touching going on.

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Example of “caption” cards

These are a little hard to see, but I can think of things to say about each of these cards.

What’s Wes Chamberlain doing with his bat?

Alan Trammell flipping the bird?

Ron Karkovice about to be kneed in the gonads?

What’s got “rookie card” Hal Morris so mad?

You can probably think of better “captions” than mine. These four aren’t the best examples (they were within reach of my laptop), but there are many more if you dig through your commons and have a sense of imagination, or a little bit of baseball history.   Or even personally knowing things about a player; Mel Hall with his eyes wide open looking at someone would be a disgusting example of a “card caption.”

I’ve got about 50 “card caption” cards that I’m looking to sell as a whole. $5 for the lot. Pick it up in Sterling.

These next ideas are totally outside-the-box thinking …

Birth year

Remember those small “Remember When” booklets at the Cracker Barrel gift shop with things happening in the year you were born? I have one for my birth year, 1986, where it  tells about the events, trends, prices of things, and other important things of that time.

Say I am not a baseball card collector, but a baseball fan. I’m not that old, but when I get to be the age where I have trouble remembering who were good baseball players back in 1986, it would be cool to me to know who these players were.

Here’s where subset cards come into play: I’m rounding up 1987 Donruss Diamond King cards, 1987 Topps Record Breakers, 1987 Fleer World Series cards, and whatever important about 1986 and making a set out of them.

This idea won’t work now, but they may 40-50 years down the road.

I witnessed it

I live close to Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Louis, and I look at important dates in the history of their four franchises during the junk wax era. In particular, those which would have made “record breaker” cards at the time.

Let’s use Bobby Thigpen’s record-breaking 57th save as an example. Were you there? Round up a set of Thigpens from 1991 (it happened in 1990, but the 1990 cards will not explain the feat), both base and subset. Who did he retire to get the save? Starting lineups?

Those who enjoy baseball and rarely make it to baseball games may enjoy cards of players they remember from those games. Unfortunately, as much as I enjoy baseball cards, I’ve only been to 2 major league baseball games.

Birthday history: Only three games were played on my birthday, and only one home run was hit on my birthday. The Cubs’ Bob Dernier had a solo shot and a two-RBI double to come from behind and beat the Padres, 4-3. Hall of Famer Goose Gossage was dealt the loss in relief. Somewhere in my collection is some 1987 Derniers.

Team Sets

As you may have gleaned reading this far, it sort of bites knowing that cards from the following year are used for feats during the year they happened.

The Mets won the World Series in 1986; and Mets players from 1987 sets will have players who were on the roster during that World Series. Heck, I wouldn’t mind having a Red Sox set, too, especially since Bill Buckner had something to do with the final outcome.

Other important years include franchise first-year cards, such as the Mariners/Blue Jays (1977), Rockies/Marlins (1993), and D-Backs/Devil Rays (1998); as well as the 2005 Washington Nationals. World Series winners are also good, as well as pennant winners and divisional winners from special years.

The St. Louis Cardinals made the World Series three times during the 1980s: They won it in 1982 over the Brewers, and lost to the Royals in 1985 and Twins in 1987. Interestingly, their three opponents are not that far from each other: Two interstates and about 300 miles in 1982, I-70 in 1985, and Minneapolis is less than a day’s drive (but a couple of days down the Mississippi River). I have come close to completing Topps sets from teams in each of those Fall Classics.

Local Premiums

There are three old Hall of Famers who were born within 50 miles from where I live: Joe McGinnity (on a farm south of Atkinson), Jim Bottomley (Oglesby), and Al Spalding (Byron).

There are plenty of former players within that same range. Two current players are from Sterling/Rock Falls: the Royals’ Jakob Junis (Rock Falls), and the Braves’ Mike Foltynewicz (born in Sterling, Minooka grad). I know of several collectors who are into Junis cards.

We’ve had all-stars, too. Dan Kolb was a closer for the Brewers during his all-star year. His cousin, the late Gary Kolb, played in the 1960s. Both are from Rock Falls; Gary was a Rocket, Dan was a Walnut Blue Raider.

Most, if not all players from the junk wax era attended high school before they turned pro; some even attended smaller junior colleges.

Like my idea for a Gary Kolb display, I think it would be cool to create a baseball card display of a certain player and donate it to that player’s alma mater for historical display. Because who else wants to be the next professional baseball player from their alma mater?

Local historical societies also could use such baseball card displays of players from their community. If you can manage to sell mint commons at face value to them, they can turn around and sell them for whatever they want to help keep their place going. Local museums always could use any money they can get to remain active.

Any other ideas?

Email me at shs42886 at yahoo dot com to include your creative idea in a future post of mine.

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